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Monday, January 10, 2005

We can't have Soriano and Delgado 

T.R. Sullivan today writes about the Soriano and Delgado situation.

Basically, he says that the Rangers would have to "free up some money" by trading Soriano in order to afford Delgado. Sullivan writes: "Club officials do not envision being able to have Delgado and Soriano on the same team."

So unless the Rangers can work out a trade of Soriano to the Astros, no Delgado for the Rangers.

This infuriates me. This absolutely is inexcusable from Tom Hicks.

The whole point of the ARod trade was so that the team could have "financial flexibility". Supposedly, ARod had to be traded to save the team millions to spend on other players. And this offseason, the contracts of Rusty Greer, Todd Van Poppel, Jay Powell, Jeff Zimmerman, and Herb Perry came off the books, clearing obligations of almost $20 million from the payroll.

And yet, the only real move the Rangers have made this offseason is to sign Richard Hidalgo at $5 million. And now, suddenly, the team that had all these contracts falling off the books, the team that traded the best player in the American League to get "financial flexibility", can't sign Carlos Delgado -- who fills a need, and who wants to come here -- unless they dump Soriano and his $8 million he'll get in 2005?

What particularly irks me is that I've defended Tom Hicks over the years. I've called him the best owner in the Metroplex (although admittedly, that's setting the bar pretty low).

But I've had enough. He lied to the fans about the ARod situation. He lied to the fans about the Grady Fuson fiasco. And now, it turns out he's lied to us about his willingness to spend money on the team. His assurances that the ARod trade was all about "financial flexibility", that the money saved would be put back into the team, have turned out to be false. The money saved is going back in Tom's pocket, while he chooses to run this team as a small market club.

Well, a small market club in one of the biggest metropolitan areas in the country, and with the highest-paid G.M. in baseball.

I'm no Soriano fan. I think he'll be overpaid. But given the current commitments, there is absolutely no reason why Carlos Delgado and Alfonso Soriano can't both be on the Rangers next season. To act like Soriano has to be moved because the Rangers can't afford him and Carlos Delgado is a slap in the face to Rangers fans everywhere.

It is time for Tom Hicks to go. Sell the team, Tom. Sell it to someone who gives a damn about the fans.


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Ummm... Welcome to the club.

You said:
"What particularly irks me is that I've defended Tom Hicks over the years. I've called him the best owner in the Metroplex (although admittedly, that's setting the bar pretty low)."

Considering Jerry Jones won three super bowls and Mark Cuban turned one of the most pathetic franchises in professional sports into one of the elite teams in the NBA, the argument for Hicks being "the best owner in the Metroplex" is and always was weak.
 
You said:
"What particularly irks me is that I've defended Tom Hicks over the years. I've called him the best owner in the Metroplex (although admittedly, that's setting the bar pretty low)."

hahahahahahhahaahahahah. jerry jones?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? Mark Cuban is the best owner in Sports!!!!!!!!!!!!!HE wants to win and is not worried about the salary cap. He wants to win not save money like Jerry Jones and Tom hicks!!! This is a no brainer!!!!
 
Jerry Jones has been a miserable owner ever since he fired Jimmy Johnson and took over as G.M. Yes, he won 3 Super Bowls...with the team Jimmy assembled. Since firing Jimmy, he's let his ego run amok and has treated the team as his personal fantasy football team. His need to be the "football guy" in the organization is what is hurting it. If Jerry the owner would fire Jerry the G.M., I would back off on a lot on my criticism of him.

As for Cuban, I don't think he's what turned the franchise around...I think it was Nellie, Dirk, Nash, and Finley. Those are the guys who brought this team back from the brink. And Cuban, like Jones, irritates me because I see him as an egomaniac who feels the need to make himself the center of attention. I'm always a bit concerned that he's going to pull a Jerry Jones, fire Nellie and make himself the "basketball guy".

And Hicks, until very recently, has been willing to spend money, both with the Rangers and Stars. Which is why I put him above Cuban and Jones both, until recently.
 
Hey guys,

I was on ESPN.com and saw Rob Neyer was hosting a chat regarding the off-season. He talked a little bit about the Rangers after someone asked him a question regarding the fact that the Rangers are trying to go after hitters not pitchers. Here is what Neyer had to say:

Kevin (NJ): What do you think about John Hart and the Rangers seeming obsession w/ offense? The Rangers have made no moves for pitching even though they allowed a .344 OBP last year, and have made attepts at Larry Walker & Carlos Delgado despite a good offense that should only get better due to youth?

Rob Neyer: (2:21 PM ET ) My opinion is that only a few teams can afford to buy great starting pitching. And if you can't afford great, you might as well stay out of the market. The Rangers made some real progress in 2004 with their young pitchers, and it's reasonable of them to try it again in 2005.
 
"Jerry Jones has been a miserable owner ever since he fired Jimmy Johnson and took over as G.M. Yes, he won 3 Super Bowls...with the team Jimmy assembled."

It doesn't matter who he won them with, he won them. If it weren't for Jerry, Jimmy Johnson would have never been the coach in the first place. You forget that. He deserves credit for the 3 Super Bowls just as any owner does for any title. We're talking about him as an owner, not as a GM, there's a difference.

"His need to be the 'football guy' in the organization is what is hurting it."

Is? You mean 'was' right?

He did exactly what we've all been wanting him to do. He went out and got a 'football guy' and gave him almost complete control. So much so that football guy is firing off Jerry's old buddies (i.e. Avezanno, Lacewell, etc.)

"As for Cuban, I don't think he's what turned the franchise around...I think it was Nellie, Dirk, Nash, and Finley. Those are the guys who brought this team back from the brink. And Cuban, like Jones, irritates me because I see him as an egomaniac who feels the need to make himself the center of attention."

So this is a personal thing with you.

You fail to give credit to both Jones and Cuban for the success their franchises have had under their ownership, speak negatively about their personalities, all while excusing Hicks' many failings which affect the teams.

"And Hicks, until very recently, has been willing to spend money, both with the Rangers and Stars. Which is why I put him above Cuban and Jones both, until recently."

Hicks got bit in the ass by the A-Rod and Chan Ho signings, and ever since them he's went into a corner with his tail between his legs afraid to get burned again. He's lied repeatedly to the fans as you point out.

Hicks is easily the worst owner in the Metroplex. There's almost no disputing it.

At least we know Cuban and Jerry's primary concern, and that's winning. No one will ever question that. I'm beginning to believe Hicks might be more concerned with turning a profit than he is with winning, and that's sad.

You're right to be angry at him, he's given us fans every reason to be. Don't go back to defending him now, he doesn't deserve anymore apologists at this point.
 
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The Blog is in regard to the main sports teams in Dallas, but primarily the Texas Rangers. Thanks a lot.

Go Rangers!
 
I agree with you completely about the sandbagging on the budget. Hicks said year before last that he lost $30 million and he wasn't going to continue to do that. At that time the payroll was in the $100 ballpark. He now has his financial flexibility. Attendance is up and with a good team will continue to improve from the 3 year decline under AROD's leadership. So, with over $20 cleared it seems like having a budget of around $70-75 million would be the cut-off on breaking even. The currentl budget is around $55 million. Spending that extra $15-20 million on the team would bring Delgado and a good arm. Or, a couple of questionable arms like Aaron Sele and Scott Scohenweis. To pocket the cash and risk taking a step back in 2005 is unacceptable. Not good.
More of my thoughts at:

www.sportznutz.com/mlb/tex/

Keep the faith, Blair
 
Hicks tried to make himself credible by signing A-Rod and then thought that signing Chan Blow would somehow solve the Rangers pitching woes. Unfortunately, neither deal made Texas better. And now, with at least $20 million cleared from the payroll, it appears that Hicks is completely unwilling to fork over the money that it would take to make the Rangers better. I have no problem with Soriano, who is clearly the most productive player at his position. But if trading him opens up a way for Texas to sign Delgado, then I'm for it. However, it is possible that Delgado is toying with the Rangers. Texas would look pretty dumb if it traded Soriano to Houston for prospects and Delgado signed with the Mets (who are getting everyone!) or a team like Baltimore. I have had a bad feeling about this offseason since the winter began and the signing of Richard Hidalgo, Sandy Alomar Jr. and Greg Colbrunn has done nothing to alleviate my fears.
 
I couldn't agree more Adam. To even imply that the Rangers can't have Delgado and Soriano on the same team infuriates me. The fact of the matter is, Texas does have the money. Getting Delgado is not going to undermine what we are doing with our young pitching. Getting the best hitter still available will at least give the Rangers a shot to compete. There is absolutely no excuse why Hicks cannot give Delgado a favorable contract and in the meantime, give Soriano a one-year deal that doesn't break the bank. I am so tired of this new stance that Hart and Hicks are taking. The Rangers are not the Devil Rays, nor are they the Pittsburgh Pirates. Taking a chance on Delgado is not like giving Chan Ho Park an obscene contract. He would feast on the right-field porch and also spell Texiera at first. There is really no downside to signing Delgado. It's not like Hicks is going to use the leftover money on pitching.
 
Wow. Some of these comments truly amaze me. I mean, has anyone ever looked at Delgado's stats?? The guy is making almost $20 million/year (about $12 million more than Soriano) and puts up right about the same numbers as Soriano, both recently and in lifetime stats. Add to that the fact that he can't run to save his life. So, why would it be such a smart trade to trade a young, relatively inexpensive player like Soriano for an old, expensive short-timer like Delgado?

That's not even touching on the argument that we don't need another 1B. With both Texeira and Gonzalez on the roster, both young, good hitters with decent fielding, why break that formula for someone who will realistically only be here for one season? I just don't see the glammer in Delgado. Let someone else pay his ridiculous salary. I'd rather us save the millions and search for a good utility back-up or a solid starter to fill a void. In my mind Delgado doesn't fill anything, except maybe his pockets.
 
^the last anonymous wrote:
"That's not even touching on the argument that we don't need another 1B. With both Texeira and Gonzalez on the roster, both young, good hitters with decent fielding, why break that formula for someone who will realistically only be here for one season? I just don't see the glammer in Delgado."

1) There's a DH spot in the AL.
2) Who's to say that Teixeira will resign and that Gonzalez will pan out? The evil Scott Boras is Tex's agent. So having a DH who can play 1B is good security.
3) Delgado will be here for 4-5 years if we were to sign him. You sound as if you think he's under contract for another year and the Rangers are planning on trading for him -- not the case. If he became a Ranger, he'd be here 4-5 years.
4) Delgado's numbers in the ballpark are superb.

Jon G.
 
"Wow. Some of these comments truly amaze me. I mean, has anyone ever looked at Delgado's stats??"

Yes. They are very good.

"The guy is making almost $20 million/year (about $12 million more than Soriano)"

He's not making anything right now -- his contract expired. He's supposedly asking for $15 million per year, with the bidding coming it at around 3 years, $30 million.

"and puts up right about the same numbers as Soriano, both recently and in lifetime stats."

Not even close. He's got a huge edge in OBP (almost 70 points) and slugging percentage (almost 60 points). Delgado has a 36 point edge in career EQA. He's a much, much better hitter than Soriano.

"Add to that the fact that he can't run to save his life. "

That's true.

"So, why would it be such a smart trade to trade a young, relatively inexpensive player like Soriano for an old, expensive short-timer like Delgado?"

Delgado isn't that much older than Soriano -- 3 1/2 years, to be exact. He'll cost $3-4 million more than Soriano will this year. Soriano will get $10-11 million if he goes to arbitration after 2005, and then he'll be a free agent after 2006. So if we sign Delgado, he'll likely be here longer than Soriano would anyway.

"That's not even touching on the argument that we don't need another 1B. With both Texeira and Gonzalez on the roster, both young, good hitters with decent fielding, why break that formula for someone who will realistically only be here for one season?"

Delgado would be signed for 3-4 years, and would be the DH. Adrian Gonzalez isn't major league ready, and I have serious doubts that he'll ever be a good hitting 1B. What adding Delgado would do is allow Gonzalez to be dealt for pitching help, or for something else.
 
Jerry was a great owner until he fired Jimmy Johnson. He was a lousy owner thereafter, although hiring Parcells is definitely a huge step in the right direction.

With Cuban, it isn't personal. I think his antics distract from the team, and I think he gets way too much credit for what Nellie and the players who were already in Dallas have accomplished.

And to be clear, I'm saying Hicks has dropped below those two. However, that wasn't the case until the ARod trade.
 
emperor-rangers avg on the road last year at .246 with a .309 obp,ie the worst in the american league.PLayers they added also dont take any pitches,ie all undisciplined hackers.Soriano needs to be shipped out .Delgado can give you 35 hr and a .400 obp.
 
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